Sunless Sea The Dawn Machine

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Nightmare Fuel / Sunless Sea. The Dawn Machine. Even leaving aside what you learn later on about it, even if all you know is how it looks, it can be eerie. Props to the art department for managing to make an enormous, amber-glowing clockwork machine look creepy. Sunless Sea is a nautical roguelike in glorious 2D, presenting a non-linear, choice-heavy, personalised experience. It’ll take dozens of games to explore all the sub-plots, grand arcs, alternatives, mysteries, relationships and romances in the game. Your character will die (or disappear, or lose her mind.

If the Dawn Machine becomes supreme, it effectively takes over London. The storylet describing its victory explains what happened and what changed:'The Great Light is worshipped in the Churches. Certain measures have been set in place at the Bazaar. The Ministry of Public Decency runs much more smoothly now. Most of us are smiling. The gold-and-amber flags of the Sequence snap in the wind.

Yes, we have wind now. At least, we will. For now, you may assume it.The Machine is grateful. You will be remembered.'

What does it mean by 'Certain measures have been set in place at the Bazaar'? Is the Bazaar dead? Or has it been imprisoned in some way?My personal theory is that the Dawn Machine doesn't quite have the strength to kill the Bazaar, or it would take too much energy.

I think that the Bazaar made a deal to exist as a protectorate. The Dawn Machine would hold back the Bazaar's inevitable execution by the Judgements in exchange for compliance. Of course, the Bazaar would be killed once it outlived its usefulness, but for now it would be a useful ally for the Machine.Any thoughts?.

SPOILER. Personally, I think that if the Dawn Machine has the strength to kill the Judgements, then killing the Bazaar should be no problem for it. Plus, the Great Chain is created and enforced by the Judgements, which means that the great cycle that the Dawn Machine wants to disrupt will end with the Judgements' deaths, not the Bazaar's.

So the Bazaar should be no threat to it; the Bazaar probably just strikes another deal with the Dawn Machine for protection against the Judgements, which the Dawn Machine would have no issue with since all it wants is to dethrone the Judgements anyways.Boom. Considering the incredible amount of hate the Machine seems to feel towards. Well, everything, really, up to and including time, I don't think it would do any sort of deal with the Bazaar.What I assume is that either the Bazaar is either already dead (not likely), or imprisoned/gagged/otherwise incapacitated. I don't think it's dead since it's kinda implied that the Machine needs to develop more (no wind yet, etc), and it can definitely not take on the Judgements yet, if at all at any time.The Dawn Machine doesn't really need the assistance of the Bazaar either, since it only really has power and influence in London and kinda sorta on the Surface through the Masters' manipulations and influence. The status in London seems stable too: 'most of us are smiling' - the Machine has some sort of influence over the human mind, mind control isn't out of the question, guaranteeing loyalty/obedience - and 'The Ministry of Public Decency runs much more smoothly now' - London's very own Orwellian law enforcement agency, keeping the revolutionaries down.Edit: this is a nice question, I love discussions about the lore.

(.) The Machine is sick. Its hatred threads your veins. Time will die. The Chain will end. From getting the Western Stigma.That's pretty much the only info we've received directly from the Machine's POV.

All second-hand sources are from individuals the Machine has brainwashed into loyalty-filled dolls, basically.I'm sure the Admiralty had good intentions at first ('let's get some laws/light in here' alternatively 'let's control a literal god'), before the Machine suddenly took over and turned them into New Sequencers. That's some sumptuous bits of lore there.

So, this confirms explicitly that the Dawn Machine wants to kill the other judgements, or at least usurp the order of the universe. IE Its reference to the 'The Chain'This lore tunnel just goes deeper. The reference to time is aninteresting one, in the absence of the Judgements time doesn't seem to work properly.

At least out on the Unterzee. I guess back to OP's question.

Do you think the emergence of the Dawn Machine would kill the Bazaar? The text is vague, but it seems that by 'certain measures' I would guess that the Bazaar is either allied with, or imprisoned/subsumed by the New Sequence.

The Judgements are so in control of the laws that you could say that they are the law, including dominion over time. Why the Neath (and by inclusion, the Unterzee) is so uhh, lax in the laws is due to the extremely high amount of irrigo coming from the Cave of the Nadir (more info in Fallen London proper), an invisible colour so powerful it can make even Judgements forget.I answered the question in my original comment, I believe that the Bazaar is at the very least incapacitated, and probably killed ASAP. Alliance is out of the question, in my opinion.The certain measures could be a few things, now I think about it some more. The Bazaar does have a few loyal fans (Lilac, Penstock) and pseudo-slaves (Masters), the measures could be to separate the Bazaar from them.

The measures could also be to, well, keep the Stone Pigs under the Bazaar sated. Or just as a way for people to not find out it's dead. Oh I forgot to answer you, I'm sorry.The Neath is a huge underground cavern that has existed for, like, millions of years. The Bazaar found it before the cooling of the Earth's crust, that's the timescale.

The Bazaar kinda made a nest for itself in there.Inside the Neath is the Cave of the Nadir, which is just a deep cave with a natural concentration of irrigo. If the Bazaar chose the Neath because of the Cave or if it was a lucky coincidence, I don't know, but the huge amounts of irrigo does have the side-effect of protecting the Bazaar from the Judgements.Storm is a former space dragon, sent by the Judgements to investigate what the Bazaar is up to.

It went into the Neath. Died, yet still kinda lives angry as hell among the stalactites of the Neath.

It doesn't really care about anything, it's just up there, screaming and breadcrumbing the Urchins worshipping it. It also have the Bazaar the gift of freedom, which basically means it won't eat the Bazaar. There's a podcast called Welcome To Night Vale. Unlike Fallen London, it is set more or less in the present day, somewhere in the American southwest.

Sunless Sea The Dawn Machine

Like Fallen London, it is a place where many people go about their ordinary, routine lives in the constant shadow of eldritch horrors, hungering and glowing with a terrible light.One of the. In the Night Vale universe is the Smiling God. (Is that a smile?) Everyone who follows the Smiling God is happy, oh so very happy. To them the world is filled with quaint, small-town beauty, wholesome neighborliness, and joyous productivity.Those who do not follow the Smiling God don't quite see it that way.

In particular, they don't quite see the followers of the Smiling God that way. Their smile (is that a smile?) has something terrifying in it, their eyes. Do not look into their eyes! Don't come any closer! Oh god, what is that on their hands, on their clothes?

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